Friday, December 26, 2014

The Proof is in the Pudding?

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I ended the above word button to the philosophical blog article with "The Proof is in the Pudding" which basically means "You have to taste the pudding to know if it is good or not". So, I realized I should give more explanation of what "The proof is in the pudding means" in English: 

Especially because if your second or third or even 4th language is English this statement might seem completely nonsensical. However, when you take it to it's original unshortened form which is "The poof of the pudding is in the tasting" it all becomes much clearer.

What does the idiom "the proof is in the pudding" mean and where does...

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    What does the idiom "the proof is in the pudding" mean and where does it come from?
    Also, what does "pudding" mean in this sense?
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    Best Answer:  It's a corruption of the adage,
    "The proof of the pudding is in the eating,"
    which basically means that the quality of something is uncertain until it has been tested directly, sort of like:
    "You don't know whether you like it until you've tried it."
    or:
    "I'll believe it when I see it."

    Here's a nice discussion of the origin of the phrase
    http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-pro1...
    Billy C · 6 years ago
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    Proof of the pudding
    Meaning

    To fully test something you need to experience it.

    Origin

    This phrase is just shorthand for 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating'. That makes sense at least, whereas the shortened version really doesn't mean anything. Nor does the often quoted incorrect version 'the proof is in the pudding'. Many people fail to see the sense of any of these though. The meaning become clear when it is realised that proof here means test. The more common meaning of proof in our day and age is the noun form, with the meaning 'demonstrating something to be true' - as in a mathematical or legal proof. The verb form, meaning 'to test' is less often used these days, although it does survive in several commonly used phrases: 'the exception that proves the rule', 'proof-read', 'proving-ground', etc. Clearly the distinction between these two forms of the word was originally quite slight and the proof in a 'showing to be true' sense is merely the successful outcome of a test of whether a proposition is correct or not.

    The proof of the pudding is in the eating is a very old proverb. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations dates it back to the early 14th century, albeit without offering any supporting evidence for that view. The phrase is widely attributed to Cervantes' in The History of Don Quixote. That appears to be by virtue of an early 18th century translation by Peter Motteux, which has been criticised by later scholars as 'a loose paraphrase' and 'Franco-Cockney'. Crucially the Spanish word for pudding - 'budín', doesn't appear in the original Spanish text.

    The earliest text that there is supporting documentary evidence, albeit itself being a translation, this time from French to English', is Nicolas Boileau-Despréaux's Le Lutrin, 1682:

    "The proof of th' Pudding's seen i' th' eating."

    http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/proof...

    Proverbs: The proof of the pudding is in the eating

    The ultimate evidence attesting the true nature of something: The proof of the pudding is in the election results, not the polling.

    Jt is ywrite that euery thing Hymself sheweth in the tastyng.
    [c 1300 King Alisaunder (EETS) l. 4038]
    All the proofe of a pudding, is in the eating.
    [1623 W. Camden Remains concerning Britain (ed. 3) 266]
    As they say at the winding up, or the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    [1666 G. Torriano Italian Proverbs 100 (note)]
    The Proof of the Pudden is in the Eating.
    [1738 Swift Polite Conversation ii. 132]
    With respect to the scheme‥ I've known soldiers adopt a worse stratagem. ‥There's a proverb however, I've always thought clever‥The proof of the Pudding is found in the eating.
    [1842 R. H. Barham Ingoldsby Legends 2nd Ser. 25]
    Let us‥look at the thing more widely. The proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    [1924 J. Galsworthy White Monkey iii. xii.]
    Lindzen for one argues that if the models get the detail wrong, they will get the big picture wrong, too. But modellers say the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    [1997 New Scientist 19 July 41]

    Results are what count, as in Let's see if this ad actually helps sales--the proof of the pudding, you know. The full expression of this proverb, dating from about 1600, is The proof of the pudding is in the eating, but it has become so well known that it is often abbreviated.

    http://www.answers.com/Proof%20of%20the%...

    http://www.word-detective.com/081100.htm...
    d_r_siva · 6 years ago
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    "You never know until you dig in the pudding to locate the proof in"
    sTzOrr · 3 months ago
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    It's similar to the adage "By their fruits you shall know them" which simply put means that actions speak louder than words
    pudding = actions (or end results)
    Kitty §ays (mew) · 6 years ago
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    To me personally because of the time I spent studying with Tibetan Lamas the concept of "becoming of one taste" with all the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas of the ten directions and the three times this particular statement "The proof is in pudding" is therefore quite useful regarding all beliefs.

    From a philosophical Buddhist perspective, "If a religious principle makes no sense of what use is it?"

    I think if all people looked at religion in this way less religious people would be murdering each other worldwide every day. 

    One of the reasons I gravitated to Buddhism to study Compassion and non-dualism was that I realized that dualism (which is found in most religions kills as often as it saves.

    So, I was looking for something that "SAVES EVERYONE" during the 1970s and I found this in Buddhism which has 49,000 correct paths and included in these 49,000 paths are all religions on earth based upon "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

    Now, of course, this is only useful if you apply this statement to people who aren't sadists or masochists but only to mentally and emotionally healthy people.

    So, the 49,000 correct paths of Buddhism would include compassionate (not killing people) in all religions including Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism etc. and would also include all shamanic paths based upon a compassionate non-violent consciousness as well.

     

     

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