Here is an article I translated with Google Translate from the original French on the Comte De Saint Germain:
The archives of Foreign Affairs contain many treasures. Thus, this curious missive sent in April 1758 to the Marquis de Marigny, then Minister in charge of manufacturing the king. The author is in the title of Count of St. Germain. He explains that he has made great discoveries in the improvement of dyeing, home to Germany, and he would be happy to share it with the kingdom of France. This letter is a pearl documentary, as it emanates from the man who was fascinated throughout Europe for its purported qualities as an alchemist! Rightly regarded as the sphinx of the eighteenth century, the Count of St. Germain still remains an enigma. Most encyclopedias agree to call it a mere adventurer, as his birth and his motivation to want to approach the crowned heads remain unclear. Like Nicolas Flamel, his name is associated with the famous philosopher's stone, but myths have always been a pride to the imagination. In their regular correspondence, Voltaire and Frederick II ironically already on "the man who never dies" or the "story for laughs" ... So back on the course of this character that made headlines.
First appearance
This is the British writer Horace Walpole which makes the first mention in 1745. In one of his letters he refers, in fact, a mysterious stranger in London for two years and has some trouble with the police. By the time he wrote, he rules in England a climate of suspicion. Authorities fear of Jacobite plots and the return of the Stuarts to the throne. In this troubled context, this extravagant Count Saint-Germain is suspected of being a spy in this cause, but the police simply assign a residence time due to insufficient evidence. Walpole notes that the man admitted, however, be a debt, and
he is willing to decline his true identity to the king in person. Such a presumption makes him say that this strange bird is anything but a gentleman!This incident aside, the Count Saint-Germain made about him on another level entirely. Displayed with the nobility, it goes into effect for a violin virtuoso in the musical world of the British capital. Walpole speaks of him in these words: "He sings and plays the violin beautifully, he composed, he is crazy and unreasonable." The famous publisher Walsh also published a dozen of his works between 1745 and 1765. He left England around 1746 and does not talk about him for over 10 years. Where to go away? They say in India or the court of the Shah of Persia, but the truth of these visits is far more than doubtful. If we stick to the letter he wrote to the Marquis de Marigny in 1758, we must believe that he retired to his estate in Germany to indulge in one of his great passions: chemistry . His approach to the Minister of Louis XV is probably not trivial. The Marquis is simply the brother of Madame de Pompadour, a possible recommendation for hearing at Versailles. At first skeptical, the minister finally convinced and let him develop several apartments of the Chateau de Chambord to complete his experiments.
Then presented to the favorite, it is quickly seduced by the uniqueness of this aristocratic scholar and polyglot. She identifies him as a way to distract a little king, a true "martyr of trouble" after the words of Casanova. The passion for science actually closer the two men. Louis XV was impressed by the knowledge of the count who wears diamonds as large as his. He soon gives all his confidence, participating in the opportunity to work on the famous dyes that are improving the quality of French fabrics. These experiences will never give results worthy of being exploited on a large scale ...
At the court of the Beloved
As maid of Madame de Pompadour, Mme du Hausset is the preferred témointe its comings and goings at Versailles, in a newspaper faithfully recording some of his interviews with the spruce canopy. It describes the Count as a man of fifty years, well-preserved of his person and a refined elegance. However, the report has spread to the court that people have encountered in this appearance many years ago! The persistence of these rumors grows Madame de Pompadour to interview him about his birth:- "But you do not say your age, and you give yourself to very old. The Countess of Gergy who was fifty years ago I think, ambassador to Venice, said to have known you as you are today.- It is true Madam, I have known long ago, Madame de Gergy.- But according to what she says, you would have over 100 years now?- It is not impossible, he says with a laugh, but I agree that it is still possible that the lady that I respect, rambling.- You gave him, she said, a surprising elixir in its effects, which it claims has long appeared to have only 25 years. Why do not you give the king?- Ah! Madam, he says with a sort of dread that I decided to give the King an unknown drug, should be that I was crazy! "The "Grand World" Paris loves these stories. So much so, that an actor nicknamed "Milord Gauve" starts running trade shows in posing as the Comte de Saint-Germain; making him say that he has lived for centuries and has even met Christ ... The person batage fun of everything around him in maintaining doubt. His extensive knowledge of the history of France, combined with his talents as a storyteller, will delight the Pompadour. When he describes the court of Francis I., it comes almost to think that he really had the time gone past 150 years: "Sometimes I amuse myself not to believe, but to suggest that I ' I lived in the earliest time, "replied he. The word alchemy came to be whispered against her. These suspicions are his lavish lifestyle without that no remittances reached him in the kingdom, following the conclusions of the investigation by a police lieutenant at the time. Better yet, the king one day call Saint-Germain to erase indelible work on one of his diamonds. The latter reported the gem in all its glory a month, saving about 4,000 pounds to a Louis XV amazed!
Saint-Germain diplomatSuch a lack of popularity caused jealousy. Casanova has devoted several pages of his smoking history of my life to her meetings with the Count Saint-Germain. He does not like it, sees him as a charlatan, but one feels a touch wondered after his attacks. Speaking of the Count Saint-Germain, Casanova wrote:"It is true that it was difficult to speak better than him ... He had a decisive tone, but of a nature so considered it not displeasing."Further: "... on any subject and in any time to be questioned, we were surprised to see him or hear about inventing a host of
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things believable, interesting, and calculated to throw new light on the facts of the most mysterious. "In many ways, our two characters are similar, except that one appears brighter than the other in the worldly conversations ...At
the head of Foreign Affairs, the Duke de Choiseul, however, is
determined to show how "career Saint-Germain extract the philosopher's
stone." Choiseul the Count hates to suspect his familiarity with Louis
XV. If
he fails to discover the origin of its financial resources, he entered
into a rage when he learns that the king made his unofficial diplomat.
Wanting
to end the ruinous war of seven years, Louis XV in fact instructed the
Count to test the British intentions in this regard. In February 1760, it is a secret mission to Holland to begin peace talks. This parallel diplomacy really is not the taste of Choiseul. Decided
to continue the war, he begins work to derail the negotiations begun
by the man he regards as a spy in the service of Prussia. The archives of this period reveal his zeal to discredit Saint-Germain with his interlocutors:
from http://numeriphot.chez-alice.fr/stgermain.htm
"Versailles, March 19, 1760."I am sending you a letter M.de Saint-Germain to the Marquise de Pompadour, who alone is enough to know the absurdity of the character and is a first-class adventurer, who more by what I have seen is very stupid.I ask you, once my letter from him to come home, and tell him from me that I do not know what to look ministers in charge of Roy finance department will consider his conduct in Holland ridiculous regarding the subject matter, but that as for me, you have orders to prevent that if I learn that even remotely, in small or large, it dares to meddle in politics, I assure I get the order the king at his return to France, he is put the rest of his days in a cul de dungeon.You add that it can be certain that these provisions from me to him are sincere they will be executed if he puts me in the case to keep my word. After this statement you pray never to set foot in your house, and it will not harm you do publish and inform all the foreign ministers, and the bankers of Amsterdam the compliment that you have been instructed to of this adventurer ... "Abandoned by Louis XV who do not officially supported, the count was forced to flee to England.After 15 years of absence, this return does not go unnoticed in the English press, which devotes several articles. One can read in the London Chronicle of May 31-June 3, 1760:"In all fairness we can say that this man should be considered as an unknown foreign but harmless, it has resource whose provenance is inexplicable but allow it to conduct a grand scale. From Germany, he arrived in France with a reputation a brilliant alchemist who possesses the secret powder and, therefore, the universal medicine. It is rumored that the stranger could make gold. The foot on which he lives seems to confirm this rumor. "However, he does not know the same success at Versailles and returned to the continent, trying to make a little forgotten. In 1762 he went to St. Petersburg and staying with his friend the Italian painter Pietro Rotari, the very one to whom we owe the only wore kept the count. A number of authors, packaged by highly romantic personality, do participate in the plot that brought Catherine the Great on the throne of Russia. Yet there is no evidence confirming the allegations. These suspicions were holding to the statement made one day by Count Orlov, who had claimed that St. Germain played a major role in the success of this palace revolution. Except that the character in question is a homonym of the name of Louis-Claude de Saint-Germain. The French general mobilization because the attention of Peter III in an attack in Denmark, thus preventing him from feeling or guess the plot hatched behind his back.
A genealogy complicatedIf one recalls the words of Walpole, the Count of St. Germain does not as such by right of lineage or royal favor. According to Ms. Hausset of Louis XV seemed to be the secret of her family background, because "he did not suffer one speaks of the count with contempt and ridicule." In another passage, she writes that "the king speaks sometimes to be of noble birth. "Madame de Genlis, whom Saint-Germain made frequent visits, suggesting in turn that it was probably" the son of a dethroned monarch. "By cross-checking other evidence, some historians are tempted to see him as the bastard son of Queen Maria Anna of Neuburg and her lover, the admiral of Castile. This adulterous affair was an open secret in the court of Madrid. In the tumult surrounding the succession to the throne of Spain in the late seventeenth century, the illegitimate child would have been hidden, and then separated from his mother to live under multiple identities. The Count of St. Germain told the course of a conversation with Madame de Genlis that "all he could say about his birth, is that seven years he wandered in the depths of the forest with his governor, and his head was a price ". Entrusted to a relative of the powerful Queen, the Duke of Tuscany, perhaps, the child would have received education from its high of the last of the Medici, and then fields inherited from his mother in the German Palatinate. This assumption is of course to be taken lightly, but at least has the merit of explaining more rationally the origin of his fortune, and to better understand the visceral need to be admitted among his peers and monarchs.Must see a symbolic connotation in the title he granted himself? Several indices grow to believe. When he moves to Germany from 1777, the count is called Welldone and Weldon. In an ambassador of Frederick II, he says before taking the name of Saint-Germain did not mean anything other than "Holy Brother" (Sanctus Germanus). Taken together, the term by which he became known may even result in companion (Comes) of the Holy Brotherhood.
In a century which saw the hatch Freemasonry, its links with the mystical persuasions are more or less noticeable. The Prince of Hesse, with whom he finished his day "officially" he said shortly before his death to be "the oldest of the masons." Cagliostro said the whimsical side of his being "the aprrenti" Saint-Germain . It is in the cell of the same Roman Cagliostro, which was discovered the book entitled Holy Trinosophie tight, now preserved in the library of Troyes and attributed to the Comte de Saint-Germain.The Count of Saint-Germain he provided was an alchemist? The testimony in that lend themselves to smile. When he visited Tournai in 1763, Casanova claims to have witnessed the transmutation of a silver coin in gold by Count! The Italian adventurer, however, remained puzzled about this, believing no doubt a clever hocus-pocus. At the end of the eighteenth century, most Masonic lodges are interested in the alchemy of a purely speculative and symbolic. Some texts credited to Saint-Germain, as this curious Sonnet on the creation, show that its search for the Philosopher's Stone is the improvement of the soul and incidentally, the optimal preservation of the physical aspect. Many of his contemporaries were so amazed at his frugal diet and not meat. Count lavished many tips explaining its apparent longevity, including, for example ... not to drink while eating. In the absence of Grand and appetizers, it will leave at least to posterity the memory of a good dietician!
"Versailles, March 19, 1760."I am sending you a letter M.de Saint-Germain to the Marquise de Pompadour, who alone is enough to know the absurdity of the character and is a first-class adventurer, who more by what I have seen is very stupid.I ask you, once my letter from him to come home, and tell him from me that I do not know what to look ministers in charge of Roy finance department will consider his conduct in Holland ridiculous regarding the subject matter, but that as for me, you have orders to prevent that if I learn that even remotely, in small or large, it dares to meddle in politics, I assure I get the order the king at his return to France, he is put the rest of his days in a cul de dungeon.You add that it can be certain that these provisions from me to him are sincere they will be executed if he puts me in the case to keep my word. After this statement you pray never to set foot in your house, and it will not harm you do publish and inform all the foreign ministers, and the bankers of Amsterdam the compliment that you have been instructed to of this adventurer ... "Abandoned by Louis XV who do not officially supported, the count was forced to flee to England.After 15 years of absence, this return does not go unnoticed in the English press, which devotes several articles. One can read in the London Chronicle of May 31-June 3, 1760:"In all fairness we can say that this man should be considered as an unknown foreign but harmless, it has resource whose provenance is inexplicable but allow it to conduct a grand scale. From Germany, he arrived in France with a reputation a brilliant alchemist who possesses the secret powder and, therefore, the universal medicine. It is rumored that the stranger could make gold. The foot on which he lives seems to confirm this rumor. "However, he does not know the same success at Versailles and returned to the continent, trying to make a little forgotten. In 1762 he went to St. Petersburg and staying with his friend the Italian painter Pietro Rotari, the very one to whom we owe the only wore kept the count. A number of authors, packaged by highly romantic personality, do participate in the plot that brought Catherine the Great on the throne of Russia. Yet there is no evidence confirming the allegations. These suspicions were holding to the statement made one day by Count Orlov, who had claimed that St. Germain played a major role in the success of this palace revolution. Except that the character in question is a homonym of the name of Louis-Claude de Saint-Germain. The French general mobilization because the attention of Peter III in an attack in Denmark, thus preventing him from feeling or guess the plot hatched behind his back.
A genealogy complicatedIf one recalls the words of Walpole, the Count of St. Germain does not as such by right of lineage or royal favor. According to Ms. Hausset of Louis XV seemed to be the secret of her family background, because "he did not suffer one speaks of the count with contempt and ridicule." In another passage, she writes that "the king speaks sometimes to be of noble birth. "Madame de Genlis, whom Saint-Germain made frequent visits, suggesting in turn that it was probably" the son of a dethroned monarch. "By cross-checking other evidence, some historians are tempted to see him as the bastard son of Queen Maria Anna of Neuburg and her lover, the admiral of Castile. This adulterous affair was an open secret in the court of Madrid. In the tumult surrounding the succession to the throne of Spain in the late seventeenth century, the illegitimate child would have been hidden, and then separated from his mother to live under multiple identities. The Count of St. Germain told the course of a conversation with Madame de Genlis that "all he could say about his birth, is that seven years he wandered in the depths of the forest with his governor, and his head was a price ". Entrusted to a relative of the powerful Queen, the Duke of Tuscany, perhaps, the child would have received education from its high of the last of the Medici, and then fields inherited from his mother in the German Palatinate. This assumption is of course to be taken lightly, but at least has the merit of explaining more rationally the origin of his fortune, and to better understand the visceral need to be admitted among his peers and monarchs.Must see a symbolic connotation in the title he granted himself? Several indices grow to believe. When he moves to Germany from 1777, the count is called Welldone and Weldon. In an ambassador of Frederick II, he says before taking the name of Saint-Germain did not mean anything other than "Holy Brother" (Sanctus Germanus). Taken together, the term by which he became known may even result in companion (Comes) of the Holy Brotherhood.
In a century which saw the hatch Freemasonry, its links with the mystical persuasions are more or less noticeable. The Prince of Hesse, with whom he finished his day "officially" he said shortly before his death to be "the oldest of the masons." Cagliostro said the whimsical side of his being "the aprrenti" Saint-Germain . It is in the cell of the same Roman Cagliostro, which was discovered the book entitled Holy Trinosophie tight, now preserved in the library of Troyes and attributed to the Comte de Saint-Germain.The Count of Saint-Germain he provided was an alchemist? The testimony in that lend themselves to smile. When he visited Tournai in 1763, Casanova claims to have witnessed the transmutation of a silver coin in gold by Count! The Italian adventurer, however, remained puzzled about this, believing no doubt a clever hocus-pocus. At the end of the eighteenth century, most Masonic lodges are interested in the alchemy of a purely speculative and symbolic. Some texts credited to Saint-Germain, as this curious Sonnet on the creation, show that its search for the Philosopher's Stone is the improvement of the soul and incidentally, the optimal preservation of the physical aspect. Many of his contemporaries were so amazed at his frugal diet and not meat. Count lavished many tips explaining its apparent longevity, including, for example ... not to drink while eating. In the absence of Grand and appetizers, it will leave at least to posterity the memory of a good dietician!
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The records of the Church of Eckenförde, Germany, contain the following minutes:"Died
Feb. 27, buried March 2, 1784, the one who gave the name of Count
Saint-Germain and Welldone, where there is no other information was
buried in the church of our city. "Such a man could he die? Its adherents and detractors would be responsible for enriching revive his legend. We read in a Paris newspaper dated June 6, 1784:"...
A scholarship and a prodigious memory seconded him well in the
attention he never lost sight of leaving everyone in complete ignorance
of its origins, age and place of birth. He claimed to have been
very Jesus Christ and have found next to him at the wedding in Cana,
when he changed water into wine. At this rate, he had lived over 2000
years, and it is surprising that no 'is not fit to live another few thousand, because in this he is only the first mile that counts. "The
amalgam is here with the jokes of comedian Gauve is revealing, since
it will be committed in the regular books or articles credence to the
idea of a Saint-Germain through the centuries.
The count appears later in a fictionalized biography of Marie Antoinette written by a man named Lamothe-Langon. In frame of this work grotesque, it is supposed to predict the fatal queen upcoming events for the monarchy ... The list of his appearances "postmortem" throughout the nineteenth century is exhaustive. We see first Masonic attend a meeting in 1785, talk to an ambassador to Venice in 1821, working secretly to the great inventions of the Industrial Revolution ... In some cases, it is still confusion with a namesake in d other, the imagination of fantasists known. The latest was a companion of the singer Dalida, a certain Richard Chanfray that during a TV show in 1972 claimed to be the famous alchemist Count. Christophe Lambert has recently camped this character in a film that traces the long idyll. The Count of Saint-Germain continues to fascinate. Even Napoleon III was interested in him, as to ask one of its officials to gather documents relating to it. The results of this survey were unfortunately lost during the Paris Commune. In recent years, the novelist Chelsea Quinn Yarbro was inspired by the count, turning into a vampire through the centuries! Alchemist, diplomat, musician, spy, a man has never given that impression to be as chameleon ... except Christophe Rocamcourt perhaps! Such an icon, now the Earl throne in the pantheon of the occult. In a sense, he became immortal by writing his name in history. end quotes from:
The count appears later in a fictionalized biography of Marie Antoinette written by a man named Lamothe-Langon. In frame of this work grotesque, it is supposed to predict the fatal queen upcoming events for the monarchy ... The list of his appearances "postmortem" throughout the nineteenth century is exhaustive. We see first Masonic attend a meeting in 1785, talk to an ambassador to Venice in 1821, working secretly to the great inventions of the Industrial Revolution ... In some cases, it is still confusion with a namesake in d other, the imagination of fantasists known. The latest was a companion of the singer Dalida, a certain Richard Chanfray that during a TV show in 1972 claimed to be the famous alchemist Count. Christophe Lambert has recently camped this character in a film that traces the long idyll. The Count of Saint-Germain continues to fascinate. Even Napoleon III was interested in him, as to ask one of its officials to gather documents relating to it. The results of this survey were unfortunately lost during the Paris Commune. In recent years, the novelist Chelsea Quinn Yarbro was inspired by the count, turning into a vampire through the centuries! Alchemist, diplomat, musician, spy, a man has never given that impression to be as chameleon ... except Christophe Rocamcourt perhaps! Such an icon, now the Earl throne in the pantheon of the occult. In a sense, he became immortal by writing his name in history. end quotes from:
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These are mostly letters written about the Comte De Saint Germain. People can say whatever they want. For example, letters written about you or towards you from a friendly or unfriendly source could exist. And in those days there were no telephones, internet, faxes, smart phones etc. So, literally everything good or bad was sent in the form of letters. And if they were not destroyed for some reason all forms of communication might not make a whole lot of sense to us several hundred years later. Also, this is from Google Translate. So, when it says it or he, it could often mean him or he or other male pronouns. Also, with a machine translation like this my daughter says who speaks and writes French better than I do that you cannot expect much accuracy beyond a few words to a sentence using Google Translate because of a variety of factors. On top of that most of these quotes are from the 1700s which might confuse translators even more because they are used to translating today's nomenclature rather than naming systems in languages several hundred years ago. If you or I were to translate longhand Americanized English around the time of the writing of the Declaration of Independence we might have a tough time too. Try reading a copy of the original Declaration of Independence and you will see what I mean.
Later as I reread this Google Translate French to English translation I found the following jewel of Information:
These are mostly letters written about the Comte De Saint Germain. People can say whatever they want. For example, letters written about you or towards you from a friendly or unfriendly source could exist. And in those days there were no telephones, internet, faxes, smart phones etc. So, literally everything good or bad was sent in the form of letters. And if they were not destroyed for some reason all forms of communication might not make a whole lot of sense to us several hundred years later. Also, this is from Google Translate. So, when it says it or he, it could often mean him or he or other male pronouns. Also, with a machine translation like this my daughter says who speaks and writes French better than I do that you cannot expect much accuracy beyond a few words to a sentence using Google Translate because of a variety of factors. On top of that most of these quotes are from the 1700s which might confuse translators even more because they are used to translating today's nomenclature rather than naming systems in languages several hundred years ago. If you or I were to translate longhand Americanized English around the time of the writing of the Declaration of Independence we might have a tough time too. Try reading a copy of the original Declaration of Independence and you will see what I mean.
Later as I reread this Google Translate French to English translation I found the following jewel of Information:
"Some texts credited to Saint-Germain, as this curious Sonnet on the creation, show that its(his)
search for the Philosopher's Stone is the improvement of the soul and incidently, the optimal preservation of the physical aspect." end quote.
So, if I read this correctly he is saying that the Search for Enlightenment (in all ways, spiritual, technical, emotional, intuitive, humanitarian etc.) is 'the Philosopher's Stone'. In my experience those who have made their life work to become enlightened often found enlightenment in all ways, traveled the world (as Saint Germain is purported to have done) and then tried to share their garnered wisdom and experiences with whoever might listen and thereby benefit.
Next quote: "Many of his contemporaries were so amazed at his frugal diet and not meat. (The) Count lavished many tips explaining its(his) apparent longevity, including for example... not to drink while eating. In the absence of Grand and appetizers, it will leave at least to posterity the memory of a good dietician."
Saint Germain was known to eat chicken but not red meat and "not to drink with meals" meant wine and other spirits rather than water. So, possibly Saint Germain was one of the first dieticians. If he also was Sir Francis Bacon who became Saint Germain "the man who never died" since he was also the father of the scientific method this might make sense. So, if he truly was an immortal is he still? I suppose you either believe or you don't. However, either way I think his story will become more and more important as we reach the Singularity of 2045 which likely will bring "potential immortality" to some and possibly eventually to almost all humans on earth. The 21st Century is a paradox in some ways just like the 1700s were. end quote
As you read this each person has to be aware that everything is not translated perfectly to more than about 50% to 70% of the original meaning here. But if you change many of the "It" translations to he or him or other male pronouns you can make some sense of it. Likewise if I get the translator working between ANY language that Google Translates into the reader has to be aware that the translations might make what I say completely inaccurate as to what I actually meant. So, by using the translator you have to hold me harmless as to the translations whatever they are.
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