Sunday, June 2, 2013

GOP argues with itself over Syria

GOP argues with itself over Syria

Republicans are arguing over what the US should do about Syria – with Democrats, of course, but more significantly with themselves
Christian Science Monitor

GOP argues with itself over Syria

Republicans are of two minds on Syria. Some, like Sen. John McCain, favor US military invention. Others, like Sen. Rand Paul, don't see such a US role. Polls show most Americans agree with Paul.

Republicans are arguing over what the US should do about Syria – with Democrats, of course, but more significantly with themselves
Leading the more hawkish wing is Sen. John McCain, who knows something about war first-hand and is not always in line with his party’s deep thinking on the way to confront foreign enemies (see the efficacy of “enhanced interrogation,” otherwise known as torture).
But Mr. McCain is just back from Syria, where he met with some of the rebels trying to overthrow the regime of Bashar al-Assad in a bloody conflict that’s cost tens of thousands of lives. And speaking on CBS’s “Face the Nation” Sunday, the Arizona Republican once again called for the US and its allies to send missiles and bombs into the fray.
"We need to give them a no-fly zone," McCain said, speaking of rebel forces. "The Israelis have shown us we can take out their facilities from a distance, that we don't have to risk our pilots. We can crater their runways, we can take out their air assets, we can provide them with a safe zone…”
“We can establish that safe zone," he said, "and I'm confident that we can prevail."
Such thinking does not appeal to the more isolationist, libertarian wing of the GOP – namely Sen. Rand Paul, who (like his father Ron Paul before him) could be a force in the 2016 presidential race.
Speaking at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif., Friday night, Sen. Paul took on McCain directly.
“I’m very worried about getting involved in a new war in Syria,” he said. “People say, ‘Assad is such a bad guy.’ He is. But on the other side we have al Qaeda and now Nusra,” militant groups fighting with the Syrian opposition.
“They say there are some pro-Western people and we’re going to vet them,” Paul continued. “Well, apparently we’ve got a senator over there who got his picture taken with some kidnappers, so I don’t know how good a job we’re going to do vetting those who are going to get the arms.”
As the Washington Times reports, McCain has been under harsh scrutiny since posing for a photo with Syrian rebels who are alleged to have kidnapped 11 Lebanese Shiites.
“There’s two ironies you have to overcome if you want to get involved in a war in Syria,” Paul said. “The first irony is you will be allied with al Qaeda. The second irony is most of the Christians are on the other side, so you may be arming Islamic rebels who may well be killing Christians. Does that make Assad a good person? No. I don’t think there are any good people in this war, and there are some tragically innocent people who are going to be caught in the middle. But I just don’t know that arming one side is going to make the tragedy any less.”
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Though they might not agree with everything he favors, most Americans clearly do support Paul’s hesitancy about any US role in Syria.
A Pew Research Center survey in December found just 27 percent saying “the US has a responsibility to do something about the fighting in Syria” with 63 percent saying it does not. Among voting groups, Republicans at 66 percent were the most opposed.
“Similarly, just 24 percent favor the US and its allies sending arms and military supplies to anti-government groups in Syria, while 65 percent are opposed,” Pew reported.
As Fox News reports Sunday, the Paul-McCain dust-up “underscores a divide in the GOP and intensifies the fight over what the party will represent in 2016 and beyond.”
“Their ideological fight is just one of several among Republicans as members seek to define and reshape the party after losing the last two presidential elections,” notes Fox, including such issues as immigration and how to attract Hispanic voters, 71 percent of whom voted for Barack Obama in the last presidential election.
With polls on the side of Democrats, Syria may be just as tough for the party generally more inclined to favor a military solution.
“It’s tragic while we sit by and watch… a battlefield situation where Bashar Assad now has the upper hand,” McCain said on “Face the Nation.”
But sitting and watching, painful as that might be, is where most Americans apparently want to be right now.
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GOP argues with itself over Syria

Even though FDR (a Democrat) was on duty when World War II Started and President Kennedy (A Democrat) was on duty when the Viet Nam War Started, the GOP tends to be thought of and to think of itself as the Hawks or even the Warriors because so much of the military brass in all services are Republicans. Republicans honor Country and Duty to Country above almost all other things even if it kills them.

A debate can be had as to whether this is good or bad but in the end the country still exists as a democracy in a Republic because of people willing to die for what they believe in in  both Political parties here in the U.S.

 

Also, though I tend to agree with McCain in many respects what Rand Paul says has a lot of merit too:

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“There’s two ironies you have to overcome if you want to get involved in a war in Syria,” Paul said. “The first irony is you will be allied with al Qaeda. The second irony is most of the Christians are on the other side, so you may be arming Islamic rebels who may well be killing Christians. Does that make Assad a good person? No. I don’t think there are any good people in this war, and there are some tragically innocent people who are going to be caught in the middle. But I just don’t know that arming one side is going to make the tragedy any less.”

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This point of view is as genuine as McCain's. Both men are incredibly genuine and Mavericks in the Republican Party and I think both men should be listened to before any final decisions are made. Also, all Democratic points of view should be listened to as well before making any decisions.


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