Koi Samed Island: Thailand: Near Bangkok and Rayong

Because it is a phoenetic translation into English it appears that Koi Samed, Koh Samed or Ko Samed are all correct for the name of this island.


I know this is a long address but if you paste this address it will show you a map of Koi Samed Island. You take a bus from Bangkok to Rayong and then a boat service will take you to Koi Samed Island where I rented masks and snorkels for my family in 1985 as well as a sailboard for wind surfing. Things likely have changed a lot there because the 2004 Tsunami wiped out the whole island so everything there likely had to be rebuilt from when I was there in 1985.

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I also found this interesting article of a family traveling in Northern Thailand:

Caving with Kids in Chiang Dao, Thailand

• Posted on January 5, 2013
• by S King
• in Thailand

A reason to leave the city would be to witness the beauty of nature. So, we escaped with our friends from the grip of Chiang Mai for the greener pastures of Chiang Dao, a small town a 1 1/2 hours north of the city. We rolled into the bus station looking very stylish.

Miss I. Style at the bus station.

The bus ride was surprisingly comfortable. We expected an old, beaten bus, but our 40 baht ticket ($1.20) got us a modern, fast and cool bus. There was not a lot of people on the bus, so we spread out on the narrow seats and had all the children sit in the back row.

The surprisingly comfortable bus to Chiang Dao.

We rented a few scooters and then drove to our Malee’s Nature Lover’s bungalows, where we were staying…er…or not. We got a bit mixed up. Malee had rooms available and told us that the place where we had reservations was small with no space for the kids. We considered staying there, but ultimately went to where our real reservations were waiting for us.

Bikers are hot.

And we were so glad we did. Malee turned out to be a cunning little woman who tried to get us to check into her place. When we finally arrived at Nature Home Guesthouse, a lovely private bungalow awaited us on an expansive fruit orchard. (Malee…you shouldn’t lie to steal business away. *tsk tsk*.)

Our bungalow. Orchid 3. Perfect for $15/night.

At $15/night for a private bungalow with heated showers,2 twin beds, wifi and hosts that look like this:

This is what the owners of Nature Lover’s Bungalows look like…seriously.

this place was awesome. It had a huge fruit orchard where the kids played, climbed trees and were out of sight. The owner even swept up the fire pit in the middle of the mango and lime trees so we could have an evening bonfire.

Cleaning up the fire pit area for us.

Friends. Campfire. Conversation. Great night.

We slept well among the chilly air of the mountains and planned to explore the nearby cave temple. But first, Alisa gets a quick lesson on how to drive a motorbike…successfully. And we drive the quick 8 minutes to the cave.

Alisa learns to ride a scooter and only takes out one bush.

The Lybberts first scooter ride. Comfy!

Outside the temple complex, there was a small market that sold all kinds of tubers and gingers and other underground wonderlings. I especially wanted some of these:

The spiritual world is alive and well in Thailand.

So many medicinal roots for sale. I wish I could read Thai.

We spent a few minutes walking around the grounds of the temple area. The buddhist temples are so ornately decorated with gold everything.

The temple complex had beautiful decor and symbolism.

Details.

The Chiang Dao Cave

The entrance to the cave is equally decorated.

The entrance into the cave.

The outside pond area.

We paid our 40 baht admission, bought some fish food to throw to the overstuffed fish in the pond to ‘make merit’ and entered the cave.
The cave itself is a nice retreat from a hot day even though it’s not as cool as most caves we’ve been in. Parts of the cave are self-guided and other parts are well worth having a guide. The beginning is a series of temple altars.

Statues at the first temple in the cave.

This part is open and not claustrophobic. A 2 minute walk beyond the first temple is the part where a guide is recommended. We decided to go for it and walked up the steep stairs into the dark part of the cave. (The guides have torch lamps to help light the way).

Explorers.

The guides do not speak English and are not knowledgeable about the cave`s geological features. The only words they seem to know are `look like elephant` or `look like egg` when pointing at certain rock formations, which was plenty of information for the kids, but not for the adults. An explanation of the cool formations in the cave would have enriched this experience.

Cool formations.

Some of the passages are very narrow, quite steep and slippery. Some we had to crawl through.

Crawling through parts.

We minded our steps with care. However, I forgot to mind my other appendages and my hands landed in a big pile of bat guano.
There are several buddha variations throughout the cave, but the most interesting thing for Miss I was the sand that was too irresistible to play in.

A recommended tip of 100 baht per person is required to avoid the scorn of the ‘volunteer’ guides, which we paid, but the insistent demands of more fees once inside the cave is annoying.

Kids in a Cave

Miss I and Ella.

Part of the cave is concrete sidewalks with lights, which makes it easy to get around.

Final Thoughts on the Chiang Dao Cave:

It was a great place to spend an hour touring the cave and having this experience. And it’s an easy cave to do with kids if you don’t take the more adventurous route with the guide. If you are an experienced caver…this isn’t for you. This is more like temple that just happens to be in a cave and you may be sorely disappointed. The entire experience did reek a little like a tourist trap, but then you see the devoted people paying tribute inside the temple and realize that this wasn’t set up just to entertain tourists. That there is a life and energy within this temple and people have recognized it for many years. For that, we pay respect to it.

Worship inside the Cave Temple.

More in Chiang Dao

Afterward, we gathered our bags from our bungalows (they were so kind to hold them for us) and headed into town to a special Wednesday market that happens once every 2 weeks. Nalini, the manager and daughter of the owners of Nature Home Guesthouse, was there with her German husband selling delicious apple turnovers that were exceptional. Her husband came here to climb the mountain and never left, eventually falling in love with Nalini.

Nalini and her German husband who came and never left Chiang Dao.

We enjoyed being the only
white peopleforeigners there. This is the experiences we love…true, local and rich with the culture of the area and not set up to entertain tourists.
We had already eaten lunch, but enjoyed the various sweets on the street.

Filled Goldfish. Yum.

Our first stop. And also our last stop.

Best fried, crispy and chewy dough balls.

Bellies full, we head back to the street.

The local Wednesday market in Chiang Dao.

Buy a bottle of water from a lady that wouldn’t sit up from her reclined position

The store owner who couldn’t be bothered to sit up to collect our money.

and wonder why we hadn’t come up here earlier. When we notice the bus back to Chiang Mai coming down the street we abandon thought and run to the bus station. “Quick! Let’s Go!” We jump on…totally pumped that we got to experience a bit of a Thai mountain beauty. I could live HERE!

Thai mountain beauty.

Read a more detailed post about the Cave of Chiang Dao on LivingOutsideoftheBox.com

The golden buddha.

The only green growing inside the cave was under the lights.

Touching “The Egg” inside the cave.

Ready to go deep into the cave.

Carvings everywhere.

The way we roll.

The kids have fun during breakfast.

Poinsettias in Thailand.

Sleeping by the campfire.

Fascinated with Fire.

Girlfriends sharing games.

Nalini…manager & daughter of the owners of Nature Lovers Bungalows.

Mr. King and Ella enjoy an early morning talk.

iPad time. Forget about a campfire.

Delicious looking wild mushrooms at the Chiang Dao market.

G in the rear view mirror on the way to the caves.

The outside pond area.

Beautiful pond outside of the Cave.

Sculptures inside the cave

end quote from:
http://www.akingslife.com/2013/01/caving-with-kids-in-chiang-dao/

However, taking kids into Thailand, India or Nepal or places like this you have to be very careful what they eat and drink and what they put in their mouths generally, (even their fingers and hands unless they are washed in the right water).

I likely wouldn't take kids under about 5 to 10 years old unless they could follow orders about what to do in regard to food and water because you can't always trust what everyone tells you. We eventually bought a kerosene stove in Dharamshala, India then to boil water so it wouldn't make us sick with giardia or worse. Even then we likely go (4 out of 5 of us) giardia which took about 6 months to slough off once back in the states. However, if you are only going for 2 weeks or so your discipline might work okay if your kids are focused enough.

Mostly we learned not to eat things like lettuce or tomatoes and various other things. However, things like Oranges are very helpful in making your body too alkaline (a lot of them) might prevent giardhia and other things. Usually boiled eggs are going to be okay and potatoes that are baked are generally okay to eat too. So, just be careful what all of you put into your mouths or breathe on a dusty day when there are a lot of animals kicking up dust with feces both animal and possibly human in the air.
Some people wear face masks over in Asia when the dust is bad especially.

So, you might think looking at the pictures that the most dangerous thing is riding that many on a Honda motorscooter. Actually, the most dangerous thing is the food and the water for someone from Europe or North America or New Zealand or Australia. However, we had a really amazing experience on Koi Samed Island until the youngest among us, my then 10 year old son (now 40) started throwing up on the way back to the mainland. However, he recovered in a few days.

On the other hand I'm writing about 30 years ago by next December 2015 so a lot has changed. For example, when I went to South Korea recently I expected something like Thailand 1985 and it was more like going to New Jersey or New  York City in many ways so what I'm saying here also could be outdated by 30 years too. Because I haven't been back to Thailand since April 1986 when we flew to Narito Airport in Japan and then from there back to San Francisco.

Buses in India in 1985: Things might be much different now with much better maintained roads than then. But, the last place you wanted to be in a bus then was the very  back seats. We did this and wondered why no one was sitting there. We soon found out when the whole family's (all 5 of us) heads hit the ceiling of the bus. We moved forward ever after that. When a 1985 East Indian Bus hit a 1 foot deep chuckhole at 25 miles per hour it was enough to give the whole family a headache or worse if you sat in the back of a bus at that time in India.