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cross-entropy, KL divergence, and Shannon entropy?

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Why Is Cross Entropy Equal to KL-Divergence? | Towards Data ...
Shannon Entropy measures the inherent uncertainty in a single probability distribution. Cross-Entropy measures the difference between two distributions, often used as a loss function in machine learning. KL Divergence calculates the "extra" information wasted when approximating a true distribution with a predicted one. 
These three fundamental concepts from information theory are deeply interconnected mathematically, with each serving a specific purpose in evaluating and comparing probability distributions. 
1. Shannon Entropy
Shannon Entropy quantifies the uncertainty, surprise, or information content inherent in a single probability distribution
. 
  • Concept: If an event is highly likely to happen, observing it yields very little information (low surprise, low entropy). If outcomes are highly unpredictable, the entropy is high.
  • Formula:
     
2. Cross-Entropy
Cross-Entropy measures the average number of bits needed to identify an event drawn from the true distribution
, but using a wrong, predicted distribution
instead. 
  • Concept: It is commonly used as a cost/loss function in machine learning classification models (e.g., logistic regression, neural networks). The model aims to adjust its predicted distribution
    to match the true distribution
    , which minimizes the cross-entropy.
  • Formula:
     
3. Kullback-Leibler (KL) Divergence
Also known as relative entropy, KL Divergence measures how much one probability distribution
diverges from an expected or true distribution
. 
  • Concept: It tells you how much information is lost if you use
    to approximate
    . It is not a true distance metric because it is asymmetric (i.e.,
    ).
  • Formula:
     
The Mathematical Connection
These three concepts are fundamentally tied together by a single equation: 

What this means in practice:
When evaluating a machine learning model, minimizing the cross-entropy loss
is perfectly equivalent to minimizing the KL divergence
. This is because the entropy of the true distribution
remains a constant, immovable value. 
To explore the mathematical derivations and real-world implementations, consult the detailed information theory breakdowns on Wikipedia's Kullback-Leibler Divergence page and Cross-Validated's Statistics Stack Exchange.
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Shannon Entropy and Kullback-Leibler Divergence


Carnegie Mellon University
https://www.stat.cmu.edu › notes › lecture-28
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Section 28.1 introduces Shannon entropy and its most basic prop- erties, including the way it measures how close a random variable is.
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Nima Sarang
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Aug 24, 2024 — A guide to information theory covering entropy, cross-entropy, KL divergence, and Jensen-Shannon divergence with proofs, examples, and ...

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In this article, we will focus on entropy from the information theory perspective to better understand its role in the context of machine learning.

Cross-entropy and Shannon entropy


machinelearningreference.com
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Dec 23, 2024 — Since the KL divergence is the difference between the cross-entropy and the Shannon entropy, we conclude that cross-entropy can never be less ...


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