Who gets the best return on stock-market investments? Not finance professionals

Is financial expertise overrated? A new study from the ‘Yelp of investing’ shows that finance professionals make less money in the stock markets than people in other industries – perhaps because banking experts know it pays to be wary

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Berkshire Hathaway CEO Warren Buffett, left, plays table tennis with Microsoft chairman Bill Gates in Omaha last year. Photograph: Rick Wilking/Reuters

Here’s a shocker: finance professionals are not terribly good at … finance.
Openfolio, which calls itself the “Yelp of investing”, mined data from 2,500 of its users over a year. The new data suggests that technology professionals are doing better than the finance pros at making money on the stock markets.
They saw that those who worked in technology and advertising had investments that were up 12.7% and 11.1%, respectively.
Finance professionals? Only up 8% over the last year.
That’s not impressive. The S&P 500 is up 17% over the last year, says Hart Lambur – so finance professionals managed “basically half the performance of the S&P 500”. Lambur, a former Goldman Sachs bond trader, is the co-founder of Openfolio and curator of the research.
Hold your jokes. The laggard returns of finance experts may not be an issue of competence. It may be a classic case showing that familiarity with the markets breeds contempt – or at least, wariness.
Lambur says the very people who work closely with the markets seem to be nervous about them. “They’re apparently more risk-averse. They don’t want to be as invested in the market.”
Neither are those in finance – as richly paid as they tend to be – particularly aggressive about increasing their already substantial wealth. “They also get paid cash in big chunks that they’re not investing fast enough,” says Lambur.
That’s evident from how many in finance hold their portfolios in cash, which is considered the safest and most risk-averse place to park it. Finance professionals, it turns out, hold an average of 14.4% of their portfolios in cash, compared with 11% for tech professionals and a meager 9% for those in advertising and media.

Andriy Bodnaruk, who teaches behavioral finance at the University of Notre Dame, says that Openfolio’s findings are consistent with his own research in the past, but advises caution. The tech investors’ concentrated wealth may have to do with the high-flying stocks of tech in the past few years.
“Over this time, the high-risk stocks [like tech stocks] are doing well,” but he notes that the data may not adjust for risk in comparing performance.
Another interesting finding is that no matter what their profession, investors’ wealth was heavily concentrated in their own industries. Technology professionals tend to own more technology stocks because their companies tend to pay employee bonuses in stock.
Finance professionals, similarly, have their money concentrated in their own companies’ stocks. While this shows a certain amount of devotion, such arrangements also devastated the employees of Lehman Brothers and Enron, who were paid primarily in company stock. One-third of Lehman’s stock, for instance, was owned by its own employees.

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Billionaires Bill Gates, right, and Warren Buffett play a hand during the Omaha bridge tournament in December 2000 in Nebraska. Photograph: Nati Harnik/AP
It is hard to resist, however, smugly enjoying the idea that the rest of us can beat the finance suits at their own game.
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In fact, there’s broader research to prove that financial experts don’t make better investing decisions than those without dedicated finance expertise.
Notre Dame’s Bodnaruk and his research partner Andrei Simonov, associate professor of finance at Michigan State University, researched how fund managers performed compared with educated people in other professions.
Bodnaruk and Simonov observed private portfolios of mutual fund managers in Sweden, and compared them with the personal investments of people with similar economic standing and educational levels.
They found that the fund managers’ personal investments didn’t do any better than those of smart people in other fields.
While not absolutely debunking financial education or expertise, Bodnaruk says that it proves that anybody with a reasonable amount of intelligence – such as tech professionals who write code and build apps – who follows fundamental concepts such diversification and common sense can make great returns from the markets.
The researchers conclude that fund managers fared better only when their workplace exposed them to additional information. “This is not about skill, this is about access to superior information,” says Bodnaruk.
This mass rejection of financial expertise may be a deeper generational trend. Lambur observes that millennial investors would rather look to the wisdom of friends and their extended network than go to a financial adviser – especially so after the financial crisis they have lived through. “The younger generation has a deeper distrust of expertise,” he says. Go figure.
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Who gets the best return on stock-market investments? Not finance professionals

The Guardian (blog) - ‎5 hours ago‎
The S&P 500 is up 17% over the last year, says Hart Lambur - so finance professionals managed “basically half the performance of the S&P 500”.

What is the difference between 8% per year and 12% per year?

Well. Imagine a $1,000,000. 10% of that is 100,000 dollars. 8% would be 80,000 dollars. 12% would be 120,000 dollars. So, there is a great deal of difference between 80,000 dollars income on your 1,000,000 investment than 120,000 dollars on your 1 million dollar investment. The difference looks like this over 10 years.  8% or 80,000 dollars per year for 10 years is 800,000 income on your invesment.                    12%  or 120,000 dollars per year for 10 years is 1, 200,000 dollars or 1 million 200,000 dollars profit from your investments.

So, 8% as opposed to 12% will make a big difference in what you can then do in your life. 1.2 million dollar return in 10 years is a whole lot more than 800,000 dollars in return on your investment.

Also, this also might make more of you interested in having money in the stock market properly invested than owning a home. However, a  home you can live in if it is paid for but stocks you cannot live in if we go into a Great Depression at some point.

Can you still afford to live in your paid for home if a Great Depression happened. Possibly.

So, the best would be first owning your own home outright that you plan to live in. Then owning stocks only if you know what you are doing with 60 percent in blue chip dividend bearing stocks and 40 percent in muni bond ladders that are insured by treasuries or other instruments so you don't lose your principle if the municipality goes bankrupt in the next few years like Detroit and Stockton did.

The people who survived with their investments best during the last Great Depression were into Muni Bonds not stocks.