Because of nuclear weapons the only "Safe" way to have a war IS Cyber warfare. I was thinking of Cyber Warfare sort of like the Neutron Bomb that was developed to kill only people with radiation and leave all their cool stuff behind like cars, computers, trucks, electrical systems (basically another countries people could just move in with all the people in that country dead or no direct threat anymore.
I think this might be the best way to look at where Cyber Warfare might be going now. It turns out Section 121 is the best and brightest (brainwashed since birth to hate the U.S. and Europe and to worship their God Kings (presently Kim Jong Un). Then they are the best in math and science at pyonyang high school and then sent to China to be trained by Chinese and Russian hackers in how to attack western countries.
This is my thought about this: Their loyalty likely would be as great as ISIL people would be to their leader simply because if they weren't their families would be starved to death or tortured for years (which is standard procedure for North Korea).
So, one likely shouldn't question the do or die loyalty unconditionally of Section 121 young men and women from North Korea and trained by Russian and Chinese governmental hackers to destroy the business and government internet connections of the free world in various ways.
One example of this might be what just happened (and is still happening to Sony). Another example likely from Russians in Ukraine was the Target credit card theft last Christmas a year ago now and others like this tentatively traced to foreign governments like Russia and China and now North Korea. However, it is likely that they all are directly trained by Russian and Chinese Governments directly which is why I'm writing about all this now.
What would an all out attack look like?
No credit card or debit card would work that day in Europe or the U.S. or wherever the attack was planned for because all money would have been stolen from those cards already and in foreign accounts. Then, through online methods all accessible power stations in the U.S. would shut down. So, only military bases or other groups that have back up generators would be operational. This likely would be an all out attack upon the U.S. and Europe and possibly Japan and South Korea all at the same time.
What would happen next I'm not sure about. However, this likely would be the first stages of an all out cyber attack. And at that point likely the same or worse would happen to everyone in Russia, China and North Korea because that's how this all works.
Would people die from this? It depends. I think mostly it would be a pretty bad traffic jam in cities with no one without cash able to function anymore anywhere for weeks or months. So, cash and gold might be important to have if something like this happened so you could still get food without power. It is another reason you want to be off the grid and solar powered too.
Just take a look at articles like this at CNN and around the world:
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The Inquisitr - 7 hours ago
CNN.com - 2 hours ago
Watch out world: North Korea deep into cyber warfare, defector says
updated 1:49 PM EST, Thu December 18, 2014
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STORY HIGHLIGHTS
- Jang Se-yul says he thinks there are 1,800 cyberwarriors in the secretive Bureau 121
- The defector calls North Korea's cyberwarfare more dangerous than its nuclear weaponry
- Official: S. Korea thinks Bureau 121 is behind hacks on South Korean banks, media companies
- Analyst says linked Sony attack shows Pyongyang's hacking abilities were "underestimated"
Seoul, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea is one of the world's poorest countries, seen as well behind most everyone when it comes to most technologies and much more.
Hacking may not be one of them.
Scant resources or not, a defector who once worked as a computer expert for the North Korean government says that it has a vast network of hackers devoted to cyberwarfare against perceived enemies of the Stalinist state.
Jang Se-yul, who defected from North Korea seven years ago, told CNN that he thinks there are 1,800 cyberwarriors in the agency stationed around the world. But he says even the agents themselves don't know how many others work for the secretive group, called Bureau 121, whose mission is to "conduct cyberattacks against overseas and enemy states."
The South Korean government thinks Bureau 121 is the agency at the heart of numerous cyberattacks from North Korea against elements in foreign countries, a government official who requested to be anonymous told CNN on Thursday.
North Korea's hacking capabilities have become a global talking point recently, after a massive hack of Sony Pictures -- the studio behind "The Interview," a comedy depicting the assassination of Pyongyang's leader, Kim Jong Un. That was followed by warnings that the movie not be shown in theaters, something that's a nonissue, for now, after Sony called off its planned release Wednesday.
U.S. investigators say an announcement blaming Pyongyang for this could come as soon as Thursday. North Korea's government has denied responsibility for the crippling hack, even as its state news agency applauded it.
"The hacking into the SONY Pictures might be a righteous deed of the supporters and sympathizers with the DPRK," KCNA reported.
Commenting generally on the North Korean government's hacking arsenal, Jang said he thinks the reclusive East Asian nation's cyberwarfare is more real and more dangerous than the regime's ability to launch a nuclear offensive -- even if it is the latter that has contributed to expansive sanctions, other penalties and the country's isolation on the world stage.
Said Jang, "This silent war -- the cyberwar -- has already begun without a single bullet fired."
'Dark Seoul' hacks of banks, media companies
Whether or not it's behind the Sony hack, South Korean intelligence thinks Bureau 121 has struck before, according to the government official.
South Korea has repeatedly accused the North of hacking attacks, including incidents in 2010 and 2012 that targeted banks and media organizations. Pyongyang has rejected the allegations.
The biggest case became known as "Dark Seoul," a series of hacks between March and June 2013 that targeted South Korean banks and media companies. More than 48,000 computers were hit, infecting the companies' computer networks with a malicious program, or malware, that slowed or shut down systems.
Seoul's military ratcheted up its cyber-alert level in response, and an official South Korean investigation later pinned the blame for this attack on its northern neighbor, finding that many of the malignant codes employed in the attacks were similar to ones used by Pyongyang previously, said Lee Seung-won, an official at the South Korean Science Ministry.
A spokesman for the general staff of North Korea's military called these allegations, which came at a time of heightened tensions between the two longtime rivals, "groundless" and "a deliberate provocation to push the situation on the Korean Peninsula to an extreme phase," according to KCNA.
Analyst: North Korea 'probably popping the champagne'
Assuming some of the allegations are well-founded, some might question how or why a country that's so poor, with so few resources, would devote so much to cyberwarfare.
Jang, who says he is still in contact with at least one of Bureau 121's members, says the answer is simple: "Raising cyberagents is fairly cheap."
"The world has the wrong view of the North Korean state," he adds. "With that incorrect world view, North Korea was able to increase its ability to launch cyberattacks."
Jang attended North Korea's military college for computer science, the University of Automation, and worked in information services for the government before defecting. He showed CNN reams of information he says was stolen by North Korean operatives from Bureau 121. The information taken from South Korean financial institutions, which Jang says he got from a Bureau 121 operation, appeared to list bank accounts, names and financial data.
The "Dark Seoul" hacks were harmful, but one analyst thinks that the Sony attack -- if it's indeed linked to North Korea -- represents an escalation of tactics.
"I think we underestimated North Korea's cybercapabilities," said Victor Cha, director of Asian studies at Georgetown University. "They certainly didn't evidence this sort of capability in the previous attacks."
He called the Sony hack, and the studio's decision to pull "The Interview," "a big win" for Pyongyang.
"They got the U.S. government to admit that North Korea was the source of this, and there's no (public) action plan ... in response to it," Cha said. "I think, from their perspective in Pyongyang, they're probably popping the champagne corks."
CNN's Kyung Lah reported from Seoul, and Greg Botelho wrote this story from Atlanta. CNN's Dana Ford contributed to this report.
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Later: I was thinking more about this to where we might be in a "The boy who cried wolf" kind of scenario. There is no reason to not slowly steal every credit card number in the free world and to monitor all accounts with supercomputers ongoing by countries like Russia, China, and North Korea. Then segments of information could be accessed regarding the actions of all people, all companies and all governments in the free world ongoing every day.
Then slowly more and more things are done but not so much as to get a major response from any free nation. By taking this slow approach the free world could slowly be eroded and governments eroded without drawing full attention in an all out cyber attack.
This is the kind of thinking both the KGB (now FSA and FSB) are good at as well as the CIA and FBI and other agencies of governments around the world.
So, basically what I'm saying here is we are at war with Russia, China and North Korea.
An attack like North Korea perpetrated recently against Sony would not have been successful unless an all out Cold War Cyber War was not in progress.
However, the governments of the world are trying not to panic people so they pretend everything is okay.
So, my advice to people is to have enough cash or gold or both somewhere to last you about a month or more to live just in case this whole thing gets completely out of hand in the next year or two.
This is my thought. However, you might have a different point of view too.
And once again being off the grid or able to go off the grid in a moment with solar power might be very useful everywhere in the free world about now too.
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Later: I was thinking more about this to where we might be in a "The boy who cried wolf" kind of scenario. There is no reason to not slowly steal every credit card number in the free world and to monitor all accounts with supercomputers ongoing by countries like Russia, China, and North Korea. Then segments of information could be accessed regarding the actions of all people, all companies and all governments in the free world ongoing every day.
Then slowly more and more things are done but not so much as to get a major response from any free nation. By taking this slow approach the free world could slowly be eroded and governments eroded without drawing full attention in an all out cyber attack.
This is the kind of thinking both the KGB (now FSA and FSB) are good at as well as the CIA and FBI and other agencies of governments around the world.
So, basically what I'm saying here is we are at war with Russia, China and North Korea.
An attack like North Korea perpetrated recently against Sony would not have been successful unless an all out Cold War Cyber War was not in progress.
However, the governments of the world are trying not to panic people so they pretend everything is okay.
So, my advice to people is to have enough cash or gold or both somewhere to last you about a month or more to live just in case this whole thing gets completely out of hand in the next year or two.
This is my thought. However, you might have a different point of view too.
And once again being off the grid or able to go off the grid in a moment with solar power might be very useful everywhere in the free world about now too.
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