Saturday, April 12, 2014

Shooting breaks out in Kramatorsk Ukraine

Ukraine crisis: Kramatorsk shooting reported

BBC News - ‎2 minutes ago‎
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Ukraine crisis: Kramatorsk shooting reported

Protesters wave the Russian flag in front of police station in Sloviansk 12/04/2014 Tensions are rising in the east, as pro-Russian activists continue a stand-off with Ukraine's new government
Ukraine's interim interior minister says firing has broken out in Kramatorsk, in the Donetsk region.
Arsen Avakov said the gun battle began when men tried to storm local administration buildings and police fired back.
Several more official buildings were reported to have been seized in eastern Ukraine on Saturday.
The confrontations come amid rising tension between the new government and pro-Russia protesters.
Earlier, gunmen occupied a police station and a security services building in the town of Sloviansk. Official buildings in Druzhkovka were also reported to have been taken over.
A Donetsk police chief also quit after pro-Russian crowds marched on a police station demanding his resignation.
Ukrainian TV channel 5 Kanal has aired remarks by the former police chief Kostyantyn Pozhydayev, saying over the phone that he had resigned in a bid to avoid bloodshed.
"Protesters came to me. So as to prevent bloodshed, I decided to tender my resignation to the [interior] minister," he said.
The same channel also showed Pozhydayev's deputy, Andriy Anosov, captioned as police chief, inviting pro-Russia protesters to work together with the police to prevent violence and looting.
There are dozens of unidentified gunmen outside Sloviansk police station, the BBC's David Stern reports
The new government in Kiev accuses Moscow of orchestrating the unrest in the east of the country.
Interim Foreign Minister Andrei Deshchytsia urged Moscow to end "provocative" actions by its agents.
Eastern Ukraine has a large Russian-speaking population and has seen a series of protests since the ousting of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych in February.
Ukraine map
Protesters in largely Russian-speaking Donetsk, 130km (80 miles) from Sloviansk, have been occupying government buildings for days and demanding a referendum on becoming part of Russia.
A similar move prompted a Russian takeover of Ukraine's Crimea region earlier this year.
Russia has denied responsibility for the protests in eastern Ukraine, but Western nations have expressed concern over a build-up of Russian troops along the border.
The US and EU have imposed sanctions on Russian and Crimean people they say were connected with the takeover.
Masked pro-Russian activists leave the regional prosecutor's office was riot police, right, watch them, in Donetsk, April 12 On Saturday morning, a group of men briefly occupied the prosecutor's office in Donetsk

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Ukraine crisis: Kramatorsk shooting reported

This is a very big test for Putin because he will fall from power if he moves from taking over cities by bluff and starts to take over cities by blood. 

Here is the real question: "Can Putin stay in power if he starts killing hundreds and thousands or even millions of Ukrainians and Russian sympathizers by accident by so doing?"

I don't think so.

However, my thought is that his real plan is not what people actually think. I think he wants to get rid of democratic capitalism and return Russia to another Soviet Union. And doing this and causing western sanctions against Russia is just one way to disempower both Russian Democratic Capitalists as well as German democratic Capitalists and EU democratic capitalist and American and Canadian and Australian and every other kind of Capitalist worldwide.

I think he wishes to return Russia to a Soviet Socialistic non-capitalistic state.

If you see it this way then everything he is doing even if it brings millions of deaths and bankruptcies all over the world finally makes some sense in a totalitarian communist way. (At least maybe to his way of thinking and many of his KGB old friends who liked the previous system.) 

Many reports of Putin hiring mercenaries from Russia, Ukraine and other former Eastern Block nations to do his dirty work in bringing down businesses and local police stations and governments in Ukraine seem to be valid. 

So, with all the consciously planned destruction of businesses and the threatening of people going on it is not surprising that violence is finally breaking out somewhere in Ukraine. What will happen now regarding the Russian Army on the border is what people are the most worried about worldwide.

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