Y'know, it appears like Trump doesn't really care if people suspect him of making financial deals (or any other kind of deals) with Putin. When no one is present who is american "What else are to people think worldwide?". Not even an American Translator who speaks Russian? Does Trump think we are that stupid?
Or does he just not care anymore about anything like this? Or maybe he never did?
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- The G20 dinner was in the Elbphilharmonie concert hall in Hamburg, Germany
Washington (CNN)As the White House sought to downplay a meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin at a G20 dinner, experts fretted that Trump's cavalier approach to engaging with Putin could come back to bite him.
"Once
again, the Russia fever has caught up with the media and everyone ran
out and tried to create a story that simply didn't exist," White House
spokeswoman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a press briefing Wednesday.
"It would be incredibly awkward for them to all sit at a dinner and not
talk."
Foreign policy and
national security experts see a different scenario -- one in which
Putin got a private meeting with the President and no US record of what
was discussed or what promises may have been made.
"They
don't have a record of that meeting, what commitments might have been
made," Steven Pifer, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a
former US ambassador to Ukraine told CNN's Kate Bolduan Wednesday. "As
it is now, you see a gathering storm because there was no one there with
him when he talked to Putin and now there's no way to prove what was
said."
The G20 dinner in the
Elbphilharmonie concert hall in Hamburg, Germany, was an opportunity for
world leaders to socialize -- a break from the working sessions and
formal bilateral meetings commanding much of the schedule.
The
event stretched for nearly 3.5 hours as leaders and their spouses dined
on turbot from the North Sea and Friesian beef cheeks, according to a menu published by The Associated Press.
It was a relatively intimate event, with attendees seated around a
long, rectangular table, dotted with empty chairs for those heads of
state that opted not to attend. Translators hovered nearby, seated just
behind their bosses.
"Halfway
through, Trump gets up and goes around the table, sits next to Putin in
an empty seat," said Ian Bremmer, president of the Eurasia group, who
was told of the interaction by others in the room. "They start a very
friendly and convivial conversation."
To
communicate, Trump and Putin relied on Putin's translator. Trump's
translator did not speak Russian. He spoke Japanese because Trump had
been seated next to the Japanese Prime Minister's wife, according to a
statement from the White House.
'Remarkable'
But
while the official White House statement described the interaction as
"just a brief conversation at the end of a dinner," three sources said
the discussion stretched for nearly an hour.
Those recounting the conversation described it as animated and friendly, with the two men smiling as they spoke.
"What
would've been normal is if they had chatted for three minutes or two
minutes," said Michael Carpenter, senior director of the Penn Biden
Center at the University of Pennsylvania and a former deputy assistant
secretary of defense responsible for Russia. "They carried on for an
hour. That's remarkable."
It was remarkable enough for other world leaders to take note, particularly close US allies.
In
private conversations, heads of state have confessed that they've been
flummoxed by how to navigate Trump's unorthodox style and also build
close ties with the US, Bremmer said. So they were particularly
surprised to see Trump engrossed in private conversation with Putin.
"People
are going to talk about that. They're going to gossip about that.
That's exactly what happened," Bremmer said. "Especially because none of
these leaders have relationships like that with Trump themselves."
US-Russia
relations have been on particularly rocky footing amid Moscow's
meddling in the 2016 presidential election and ongoing conflicts in
Ukraine and Syria. On top of that, Trump and Putin had already met for
two hours and 15 minutes earlier that day -- a formal bilateral meeting
that stretched far beyond its scheduled time.
In
addition to unsettling US allies, experts said the risk of the informal
Trump-Putin dinner chat was obvious: There's no way for the US to
account for what the two men discussed.
"The
real story here is this was an hour-long meeting. What did they talk
about for an entire hour?" said Carpenter, who heard of the meeting from
others in the room.
Trump's conversation with Putin could have hit on any number of issues from US sanctions against Russia to Syria or Ukraine.
The
question of what exactly was discussed in Hamburg took on a new urgency
for some Russia experts as Moscow ramps up pressure on the US to return
diplomatic compounds in New York State and Maryland. Former President
Barack Obama ordered the compounds be closed in 2016 as retaliation for
Russian election interference.
On
Monday, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, emerged from a
meeting with US Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Thomas
Shannon and said he "almost" got the compounds back. So far, no
agreement has been announced.
"I'm thinking to myself, wait a second, did Putin bring that up with Trump?" Bremmer said.
It's also unclear what assurances, if any, Trump could have offered Putin in private.
US officials told The Washington Post in
a story published Wednesday that Trump has decided to end a secret CIA
program to arm and train Syrian rebels battling Bashar al-Assad's
government -- a move that's sure to be welcomed by Russia.
According
to the Post report, Trump made the decision before meeting with Putin
at the G20. Sanders, the White House spokeswoman, declined to comment on
the news Wednesday, but said she wasn't aware of that issue coming up
in Trump's dinnertime conversation with Putin.
Trump has spoken about this in the past, including a November interview with The Wall Street Journal, saying he didn't think it was productive to be fighting Syria, which is fighting ISIS.
The
Post also reported the decision about the program came nearly one month
ago, ahead of the Trump-Putin G20 meetings. The decision also does not
affect the Pentagon-led effort to work with US-backed Syrian rebels,
according to The Post.
Freewheeling style
Trump's freewheeling style has only added to the unease among national security experts.
In
May, Trump welcomed the Russian foreign minister and the Russian
ambassador to the US to the White House and proceeded to disclose highly
classified information.
The
President also bashed former FBI Director James Comey, who he had
recently fired, telling the Russians that Comey was "a real nut job," according to The New York Times. Trump also told them, "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That's taken off," according to The New York Times.
On
one front, experts were in agreement: Despite the claims from the White
House, an hour-long conversation goes far beyond exchanging
pleasantries, especially when it's an hour with Putin.
"Putin
is so skilled at this," Carpenter said. "He's so skilled at trying to
form a relationship with someone in order to manipulate them. Who knows
what he proposed."
The administration's decision not to disclose the conversation or offer a readout of the dinner only added to the intrigue.
After
the conversation came to light, the White House released a statement
Tuesday evening, saying, "The insinuation that the White House has tried
to 'hide' a second meeting is false, malicious and absurd. It is not
merely perfectly normal, it is part of a President's duties, to interact
with world leaders."
On Wednesday,
Sanders said it was "absurd" and "silly" to suggest the White House was
trying to keep the meeting under wraps, noting that the dinner was on
Trump's public schedule for the day.
Meanwhile,
the President's own national security team may have few details as to
what actually went on during Trump's private conversation with Putin.
If
a tape of interaction exists, it's likely in the hands of Putin's
translator, Bremmer said, leaving open the possibility that Moscow could
release portions of the conversation -- perhaps out of context -- at
its convenience.
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